Jun 21, 2017 in fact, it might be another three years until we see an updated performance sedan from the mostly allwheeldrive automaker. New subaru wrx and sti not due for another three years. The ringland portion of the piston holds the piston rings via. The first ringland is an area that typically fails the most. The 2008 subaru impreza is available as a compact sedan or fourdoor hatchback. Subaru of america is facing another lawsuit over alleged engine defects in the 20092014 wrx and wrx sti performance models.
If the 2018 sti were all new with a new engine then i would say you would have a difficult decision to make. The seven greatest subaru impreza wrx models of all time. How to avoid blown ringlands in your wrx or sti igotasti is an online forum and community for all subaru wrx sti enthusiasts. My 2012 wrx sti engine spun three bearings at 19,000 miles. All of the wrx s were modified and tuner, and the sti will be soon. The very first impreza wrx to wear the nowfamous sti badge, the 1994 wrx sti version 1 was another exclusive like the type ra, available only in japan and europe. Believe me, honda dealers are pissing all of us off but if you truly love honda, you should wait a year when inventory is greater and sale prices are back to msrp or below. Entire engine being replaced by subaru under warranty. Hi all i am just wondering what the usual signs are for the infamous ring land problems that are associated with cracked ringlands in the ej25. Igotasti is an online forum and community for all subaru wrx sti enthusiasts. How to avoid blown ringlands in your subaru wrx or sti viking speed shop posted on august 20, 2015 by ron sinclair this is a good read, and ive elaborated on some of the articles listed items in the past here, here, and here, but im not a mechanic nor do i claim to fully understand a combustion engines inner workings. The lawsuit contends cracks in the piston ring lands, separations.
It has the same motor and still prone to ringland failures but it all depends on how you drive it and your luck. The wrx premium is nice, but still a decent savings over the sti. Truedelta 2008 subaru impreza wrx outback sport repair. Jun 02, 2010 most engine failures are either a spun bearing or a cracked ringland.
The goal of this article is to help you avoid becoming one of them. The rod issues that are mentioned effect the new fa20dit motors in the new generation wrxs not stis. The wrx has a brand new engine with great mpg numbers for a performance car. I have recently bought a 2015 wrx sti which has been modified to the stage 2 category. The amount of force exerted on wheel bearings is astounding. Some of these may seem like common sense to most, but for many younger or first time turbo car owners it may be new. Motornubs 2002 ebay turbo replaced because of excessive smoke turns out the smoke was from cracked ringlands music by moog from mcm. Subaru ej25 with a ringland failure and spun bearing. Although i havent experienced it with mods yet in the cold, now that the temp is falling in the midwest its been funky. For those who dont know a ringland failure is usually as simple as a crack in the part of the piston that your piston rings sit on. Subaru wrx ringland failure lawsuit says engines fail. Subaru gets hit with 2nd wrx sti engine failure lawsuit. When i tore it apart to rebuild it, every single piston had cracked lands.
The second ringland plays defense, blocking any remaining combustion gases from the combustion chamber and blocking oil that has snuck past the third ring. Honestly if it was my money id get the wrx, the only thing id miss is the adjustable diffs of the sti. Active torque vectoring has also been introduced to create more engaging steering response, sharper overall cornering capabilities and the facility to drive these cars closer to the. Subaru settles a lawsuit against the 20122017 subaru wrxsti equipped with. This in turn causes a loss in compression in that cylinder with symptoms of misfiring, smoking etc. There is a significantly high number of piston ringland failures on the later model subaru wrx and wrx sti. I believe the cracked ringland issue was only an sti issue, but i could be wrong. While the current incarnations of the wrx and its hotter sti variant still provide balanced dynamics and remain well liked by driving enthusiasts, seven years without a significant upgrade is a long time to wait. All of the wrxs were modified and tuner, and the sti will be soon.
Aug 20, 2015 how to avoid blown ringlands in your subaru wrx or sti viking speed shop posted on august 20, 2015 by ron sinclair this is a good read, and ive elaborated on some of the articles listed items in the past here, here, and here, but im not a mechanic nor do i claim to fully understand a combustion engines inner workings. Subaru wrx sti in california, united states oct 2007 apr 2017. Fellas, just got everything back together in my 20 sti after pulling the motor and replacing a failed piston from ringland crack. This can be as simple as installing an intake on your sti or wrx, which in many cases will change the. For op the issue youve come across is more than likley ringland railure where the piston heads cant handle the stress of knock events pushing the primary ring down against the slots on the side of the pistons. What does a cracked ringland look like see here iw sti. When i fire it up, i now get an immediate p0346, p0345 and p0300 code for camshaft position bank 2, camshaft position sensor, and random misfire. I have been thinking about picking up a new wrx but from my research i keep reading about people getting cracked ringlands at an alarming rate. Piston ringland failure after 10k miles on brand new 2009 subaru impreza sti. Its most susceptible to damage since it supports the first compression ring, which seals out heat and combustion gases. Apr 02, 2018 subaru of america is facing another lawsuit over alleged engine defects in the 20092014 wrx and wrx sti performance models. The crack you have going on there is likely a single piston, single land, single crack scenario. Install quality forged pistons cp, weisco, je, arias, etc. May 19, 2015 for op the issue youve come across is more than likley ringland railure where the piston heads cant handle the stress of knock events pushing the primary ring down against the slots on the side of the pistons.
I see some people say oil consumption goes up dramatically and also others saying a compression test will show whereas other people say the compression test didnt show anything. Total performance the subaru wrx sti subaru new zealand. In fact, it might be another three years until we see an updated performance sedan from the mostly allwheeldrive automaker. How to avoid piston failure subaru performance tips. The you have suspension parts, transmission parts and all sorts of various things that will start to go bad. The problem ringland failure on ej20 and ej25 series engines while largely limited to the late model wrx and sti with the ej255 and ej257 motors, theres been some concern raised about the shear numbers of ringland failures being reported on the forums. How to avoid ringland failure in your subaru wrx sti.
Dec 22, 2017 my 2012 wrx sti engine spun three bearings at 19,000 miles. Most engine failures are either a spun bearing or a cracked ringland. The subaru wrx sti has eyecatching features like the front grille, and headlights which are steering responsive. See good deals, great deals and more on a subaru wrx. Would buying a stage 2 cobb accessport resolve these issues, or is there a chance my situation is worse. My stock a6 motor was just smoking like crazy when i got on it, but ran great so i didnt think anything of it. In the forum you will find an informative tech area, a place for members journals, vendors with special members pricing, and monthly contests. Seems like anything over 350hp risks bending the rods. The wrx and wrx sti both feature multimode vehicle dynamics control with three different driverselectable settings for the stability control and traction control. Fix the ringland issue before putting another junk motor in the cars.
For the price of a wrx limited i might as well just get an sti. This guide also is helpful if you are removing your stock oil pickup tube that is known to crack on the sti. The ring then flexs and puts a point load on the piston ringlands. Weve assembled this short list of reasons why subaru sti wrx pistons and.
Just use the serch page and type blown ringland symptoms but fwiw you will more than likely be using a large quantity of oil 1qt per 1,000 miles. The engine was full of oil at the time, and oil was changed every 3,000 miles superior oil with oem filter. The rod issues that are mentioned effect the new fa20dit motors in the new generation wrx s not sti s. This is a step by step guide on removing and reinstalling a oil pan on your subaru impreza sti or wrx. Nurburg, germany a heavily modified subaru wrx sti set a new fourdoor sedan track record at the famous nurburgring nordschleife race course. I can tell the previous owner had some sort of programmer on it, but it didnt come with the car. Subaru wrx and sti engine variations my08 to my whats the difference and hoe parts. Subaru wrxsti owners, contended in the lawsuit, the 2. This guide is also useful for installing a sti spec oil pan onto your wrx. I will say that burning oil is another common thing, but i thing that a lot of it is blow by oil getting burnt off. I attribute my mpg cause of the tune and intake, but now the car geys kinda jerky under high boost. This can be as simple as installing an intake on your sti or wrx. Each bearing is required to smoothly control the rotation of the wheel to the tune of about a thousand revolutions per mile, support the transfer of power to the wheels for rapid starts and sudden stops, and handle the powerful lateral twisting force of the tires changing direction against the pavement. This was really for the older models, like say my 03, that have developed some miles and age on them.
Other features include 19inch alloy wheels, yellow brake calipers, red seat belts and gloss black interior accents. Given enough stress, this can crack the ringland outright, or contribute to its failure. The premium adds a front view camera and power drivers seat with memory. I guess i should change the title to buying a used wrxsti. Nov 02, 2010 unidentified knocking sound that was found to be a cracked piston ringlanding.